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Jan07

Over the Top

by Josh on January 7, 2013 at 8:00 am
Posted In: Fake World of Real Sports

Over the Top
Set In: 1987
Sport: Arm Wrestling


The premise of the movie revolves around a man named Lincoln Hawk, played by Sylvester Stallone, who is a professional truck driver. In his off time he dabbles as an arm wrestler and has established himself a legend of sorts in some of the underground arm wrestling circles (yes, I just said “underground arm wrestling circles”). The plot centers ultimately on him trying to bond with the son he abandoned but the arm wrestling aspect comes into play near the end as he enters the 1987 Las Vegas World Arm Wrestling Federation Championships to win enough money, and a new truck, to start his own business. And of course, being a movie, we see some things that don’t quite make sense.

Rules on this may not have been accurate for the time period. According to the World Armwrestling Federation website, the WAF formed in 1977 but the rules that I found on that site were first created in 1994, making a 17-year knowledge gap that spans the time this movie took place. The rules haven’t changed much between ’94 and today from what I could tell so we’re operating under the assumption that the rules could have been very similar in 1987 when Over the Top is set.

His Signature Move
As the title states, Hawk’s signature move is to go “over the top” of his opponents by taking his four fingers and repositioning them to engulf his opponent’s hand. The question is, is that move even legal? From what I can tell the answer is actually yes, but not if your opponent breaks contact because of it. If the opponent doesn’t like what is happening and breaks contact, it could result in a foul for Hawk under the terms of a Slip Out. According to the World Arm Wrestling Federation rules:

8.4 Slip Outs
The referee will call one foul for “causing a slip out” when:
8.4.1 You lift your fingers off your opponent’s hand prior to a slippage[.]

In the film Hawk tries this and his opponent in the championship match (amongst many others and teaches it to his son who uses it to defeat a truck stop pinball kid), an undefeated competitor by the name of Bob “Bull” Hurley, pulls his arm away and breaks contact. From what I’ve gathered of the rules, all he would need to do is explain he removed contact because Hawk was repositioning his fingers. If the referee sided with Bull, and given this rule it seems like they would, Hawk would be called on a foul. But from the sounds of things, any other time this move is used, so long as it does not result in a Slip Out, it could actually be legal.

The Double-Elimination Rule
The announcer in the film goes on to say that the Championship will be a double-elimination style, which is at least accurate to the rules:

5.1 Double Elimination Seeding
5.1.1 WAF championships will always be double elimination. All contestants must lose twice.

In a dramatic moment during the finals where the Championship is down to 8 contestants, Hawk loses for the first time to a crazy, bearded Hacksaw Jim Duggan-esque man. He must, in true family film fare, rise above this loss to come back and ultimately face Bull in the final match. Not surprisingly, being a family film, Hawk overcomes adversity and beats Bull to win the Championship and also the new truck and cash prize. But up to this point Bull has not lost as far as we are shown. The rules do not differentiate that the final match of the championship will be any different than previous matches. This means that there should have been a rematch to ultimately decide the winner. This of course never happens and while it is certainly possible that they never showed Bull losing a match prior, that would make little sense from a movie standpoint because it would show that Bull is in fact capable of losing and becomes less of a superhuman obstacle to overcome.

Flipping the Magical Hat Switch
Reading the rules to research the previous 2 entries led me to this little interesting fact. In the film Hawk wears a black trucker’s cap which he turns around to show that he’s serious. In a segment shot like a documentary talking to each of the final competitors he talks about how when he spins his hat backward it’s like “flipping a switch.” Unfortunately for him, that wouldn’t have been allowed in a real Championship:

5.2 General Guidelines
5.2.3 Anyone with long hair will have to have their hair restrained in some fashion. Head bands are permitted but not hats.

Under the basic rules of the Championship, hats are not allowed to be worn during the matches. This means that Hawk’s switch, unfortunately for him, would not have been available and he should have been fighting each match without his hat entirely.

The Tournament Itself
Most surprisingly it seems that the tournament itself could not have actually happened in the way that it was demonstrated in the film due to one very large rule: the World Arm Wrestling Federation Championship is done using teams from countries all over the world. It is not a competition for individuals; it is comprised of teams of many people spanning left arm, right arm and each has their own sets of weight classes:

1.1 – Teams
Must be composed of Members of Country represented. If required, a team member or individual may have to produce any document demanded by WAF to establish proof of his/her nationality to so represent his/her Country. The term “team” for all intents and purpose, will mean all of the categories presented, both left and right arm, both female and male. A team trophy will be awarded, based only on total points accumulated for all categories in both genders. Teams can be broken down to determine points by gender, only to establish ranking of female and male teams from each country. Teams can be further broken down to left and right arm categories, again by gender to further establish rankings. Trophies will only be awarded in these categories if the host country wishes, but only with written permission from WAF.

1.2 – Number in a Team
Up to two competitors per Country in each right and left arm categories

Instead of an individual prize being awarded, Hawk would have had to be able to join the USA’s arm wrestling team (as a right-hander in his weight class) and points to determine an overall victory would have been tallied across the entire team. If the film had taken place at a real-life WAF tournament, there would have been no individual events or prizes, nor could Hawk have randomly strolled in off the street and just signed up amongst 5,000 other US competitors. This is a world championship, that would be more like a national championship.

Then again, it makes sense when you factor in the fact that in addition to the substantial prize money, how utterly convenient the writers made it be that the other part of the grand prize happened to be a top-of-the-line semi-truck.

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Jan04

And away we go

by Josh on January 4, 2013 at 6:00 am
Posted In: Site Stuff

We’re up, we’re running, and it is awesome!  Welcome to the debut of Josh Shoberg (dot) com!  In all honesty this thing went through about 3 revamps, none of which actually saw the light of day ever until I put this thing together.  Because I got sidetracked by things like life in general, my day job, my family, and a spontaneous hernia surgery where my insides attempted an old-timey prison break tunneling their way through my abdomen wall, you’ll see a few more blank pages and Coming Soon images than I was hoping to slap you in the face with.  No wait, I ended a sentence with a preposition.  A few more of those than with I was hoping to slap you in the face.  My inner Grammar Nazi is placated.  Anyway, that’s why this entire site is done on a “Whenever I Can” schedule.  I am going to attempt to create order from the chaos on as regular a basis as I can with the kind of schedule I have, but that’s just sometimes asking a lot.

Here’s what I’ve got in store for you:

There are 5 blogs:

  • The Real Life Adventures of Josh – I have a lot of strange stories about things that have happened to me.  You will be bombarded with them here.
  • The Fake World of Real Sports – We take sports films and analyse what would happen in the real world if the events in the film took place during actual sporting events using period-specific rules.
  • The Project Blog – I work on a lot of different things at various times.  This is a way to keep track of my progress on some of the ones big enough to merit their own pages.  This is broken down into Completed and In Progress.
  • Various Rants and Such – Sometimes I just vent about things or whatever.  It’ll go there.
  • Josh Reviews Stuff – There aren’t actually any entries in this just yet, though one for Assassin’s Creed 3 will be coming soon.

There are currently 4 comics:

  • The Adventures of Kyle and Josh – Contains the archive of the 4-issue run with Steff Krus at the helm.
  • Worst Summer Ever – Currently posted page 51, new to the comic since the last site went down (thank you, non-descript hacker douchebag!) and there will be some pages trickling in here and there as the artist, Dan Barton, finds time to do more.
  • Old School Game Review – Currently not updating but contains the 11 comics that went with classic video game reviews from an old video game selling site I attempted.  This will be updated at some point as I have more reviews and comic scripts written, just no one to illustrate them.
  • Random Filler Theater – A catch-all for other stuff I’ve done or other people did as a collaboration with me, fan comics, things like that.  You’ll start seeing a lot of these trickle in as I dig up old stuff on my computer that in all honestly would probably be best left to die in a field somewhere.

Then there are other sections:

  • About – This is about me, the site, an FAQ section (one of the unplanned Coming Soon images you’ll see), et cetera.
  • Artwork – Photoshop, pencil drawings, character sketches, other random stuff.
  • Figures – Dedicated to my random hobby of repainting action figures.
  • Buy Stuff – Eventually there will be a store where you can get merchandise like shirts and books and all kinds of other stuff.
  • Help Wanted – I always have more projects than I can handle on my own so if you want to help me, I’m more than willing to take it.
  • Other Stuff – Sometimes I don’t really know how to classify things.  That’s where weird stuff will eventually go.

Ready?  Good.  Away we go!

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Dec20

How to get people not to visit your travel destination

by Josh on December 20, 2012 at 10:24 am
Posted In: Various Rants and Such

My wife and I do a lot of traveling, or did before the addition to the family who can only travel so far at a time.  There is in fact a blog called Random Trippers that my wife and I update on occasion about our various journeys and such.  And we see a lot of things, from popular tourist destinations like national landmarks or museums to more off-the-beaten-path types of roadside attractions and oddities.  Our honeymoon was an 11-day road trip across half the country where we did everything from go to a winery in a cave to sleeping in an authentic cotton-picker’s shack in Mississippi to off-shore fishing in Florida.  We just like a lot of things.

In the process of researching places to go I started to find a surprising trend.  I would add all these places to a list of prospects and Heather and I would go over them and narrow them down, agree what we wanted to see and how far out of the way we were willing to go to see them.  And then I would start to get more information about the place like the hours of operation.  And that’s when I started to see it.  Places were closed weekends.  And not just closed weekends, but actually only open Mondays through Fridays during “normal business hours.”  i.e. the same hours everyone else is usually working.

It led me to wonder what kind of a place would decide NOT to be open when a majority of people would be able to make the trip to see it.  I understand some places are run by volunteers and you have to cater to their schedules or else no one will go see it, but do none of those places understand that in order to have people actually come to your place you need to offer having it open when those people are available to see it?  Here’s an example:

My buddy Matt and I went to the Jolly Green Giant museum in Blue Earth, Minnesota.  It was essentially started by an ex-employee of the Green Giant plant down there and it houses an impressive array of items over the years that company has been in business.  It’s housed inside of the old fire station in town, but what is also housed in there is the city’s Chamber of Commerce operations.  The museum has the same hours as the Chamber of Commerce, which means you can only see it during the week while most people are working.  I only got to go because I was between contract positions at the time and Matt had already taken the week off.

So you’ve got these great places, places that people would like to get to go see, but they can’t go during those hours because they’re busy.  And if they can’t go then the place can’t make money to pay people to be there to let people in and take their money.  So it becomes a vicious cycle.  Again, I understand most of these places are run by volunteers and I’m not saying to just make the stand around all day if no one is going to be there, but you have to at least find a way to make the place accessible to people during what are construed by most people as their normal vacation hours: evenings and, most importantly, weekends.

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